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chocolate is an ever increasing global
巧克力在全球范围内的销量不断增长
passion each we eat million tons of it
我们每次吃的激情 数百万吨
and the AM doubles every 10
AM 每 10 翻倍
years chocate is celebrated TR
庆祝巧克力年 TR
andib the ind fl
安迪布工业公司
you know the Côteivoire it is the
你知道科特瓦是
country which produces the most cocoa in the
世界上生产可可最多的国家
world cocoa fruits or cocoa trees
世界可可果实或可可树
we call them Cabos and look at the
我们称他们为卡波斯，看看它
size of our Cabos we take care of our
我们照顾我们的 Cabos 的大小
plans they are Cabos of love we
计划我们是爱的卡沃斯
take care of them like you we will take the
像您一样坚持我们将采取
time to pick them with joy
是时候用勺子快乐地舀它们了
tenderly detach them from the without hurting them
轻轻地将它们分开而不伤害它们
because we do everything with
因为一切都是我们自己做的
love in the
爱在海岸
Ivory Coast Mang cacacoup in the
20世纪20年代的象牙色Mang可可豆
last 20 years you Mang worked DESS
过去几年您曾在 DESS 工作
avage he worked in the worst form of
他以最糟糕的方式工作
child labor that is to say
童工，即
very dangerous chemicals from the
非常危险的化学品
PO's machetes very
非常PO砍刀
heavy the industrialists are absolutely no
重工业家绝对是
longer in the game deforestation
更多人死于森林砍伐
child labor on plantations
种植园童工
all these are things we talk about
这些都是我们谈论的事情
and therefore it is conscious and I
穿上它，它是有意识的，我你
assure you that they also really give malield
确保他们也真正给予
马利尔德
the country accounts for 40% of the
全国占40%
world's coco production without knowing
世界椰子产量不为人知
it we mostly eat Ivorian coco there are
我们主要吃科特迪瓦可可
no giant coco plantations monitored by
没有监测到巨型椰子种植园
multinationals neither in Ivory Coast
跨国公司不在科特迪瓦
nor elsewhere coco is grown by hundreds
在其他地方也没有种植数百个可可
of thousands of farmers on small
数以千计的小农户
isolated
孤立
plots it will then go through a long
然后它会经历很长的一段时间
chain of
链的
brokers it transed before end on
结束前交易的经纪商
ourmaret
乌尔马雷特
SH we will try to go upam along that
SH 我们将尝试沿着这条路线前进
chain until the source go where foreign
链直到源头去国外
eyes are not
眼睛不是
expected at the far west of the country
预计在该国最西部
eight hours away from the capital city
距首都八小时车程
stand the great forests 40% of ioran
矗立着大森林 40% 的 ioran
coco comes from
可可来自
there we are still on the main road
我们仍然在主干道上
5 km FA and on the right it doesn't happen
5 公里 FA 在右侧不起作用
it's for
这是为了
motorcycles tr
TR摩托车
protpone particular
质子特殊
COC someone he says he's going to pass
COC 有人说他会通过
someone given 100 francs someone
有人给了某人 100 法郎
gave 500 someone who big truck
给了有大卡车的人500
he don don he loaded 1000 francs don
他不 不 他装了 1000 法郎 不
1000 francs the truck loaded it's 1000
每辆装载卡车 1000 法郎就是 1000
francs
法郎
we are about 10 km from Liberia this is
我们距利比里亚约 10 公里，这是
one of the last protected forests in
最后的受保护森林之一
West Africa the de
西非
forest or what's left of
森林或剩下的东西
it trees stand out like big white
它的树像大白树一样引人注目
skeletons they have been killed to give
他们被杀的骷髅
ground to coco all that green underneath
磨到可可下面所有的绿色
the white W is
白色的W是
coco illeal plantations this forest
可可非法种植园这片森林
no can
不可以
propertycel let alone grow anything on
propertycel更不用说在上面种植任何东西了
it in theory access has to be granted by
从理论上讲，它的访问权限必须由
the water and forest
水和森林
department is the state agency in charge
部门是国家主管机构
of the protection of forest reserves but
但保护森林保护区
the law doesn't apply here after a
法律在此之后不再适用
fourhour ride on tracks we reach an
在轨道上行驶四个小时我们到达
unauthorized settlement
未经授权的结算
this is a law
这是一条法律
zoneandestine farmers took hold of a
zoneandestine农民掌握了
forest that doesn't belong to them we
不属于我们的森林
better not say we journalist in the
最好不要说我们是记者
heart of the forest every is suspous an
森林之心每一个都悬浮着
ioran NGO member is leading
ioran非政府组织成员正在领导
us around0 people on this camp in HS men
我们周围有 0 个人在这个 HS 男子营地
and children only they drink the water
和孩子们只有他们喝水
from the river and eat the bananas and
从河里捞出来吃香蕉andav
they grow in the forest they pi the COC
他们生长在森林里，他们种植COC
pods and cut them open with
豆荚并将它们切开
ma have skful hands the shells are hard
我的手很灵巧，贝壳很硬
and the maches are sharp
机器很锋利
inside precious coco beans Shine white
里面珍贵的可可豆闪耀白色
and wet they are d the first time before
并且他们第一次之前是湿的
being put into bags then buyers will
被放入袋子中然后买家会
come on Trucks to buy them they are
来卡车买他们吧
called the trackers
称为追踪者
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the workers very young age
工人们都很年轻
is here a third of the workers are
这里有三分之一的工人
children these youngsters are not Iori
孩子们 这些年轻人不是八神
they all mrant from neboring Burina Faso
他们都来自邻近的布里纳法索
a country Plag by
一个国家的普拉格
Dr Ian
伊恩博士
coco
椰子
é don't want to go to
不想去
school he abandoned
他辍学了
no for the
不为
sen so how did you come
森 那你怎么来的
here it interests
这里是
you a lot we sleep at the bottom of
你很感兴趣，我们睡在楼下
the woods good d not in clean houses
树林里好，房子里好
the musi all that there at the end of the year
在年底拥有音乐家的一切
you get sick you have to go to
你生病了你必须离开
the hospital you have to spend so at the end of the day
你必须去的医院所以结束
when you're going to calculate too much you
当你要计算太多时计算
look back but as we have nothing to do
degardian 但因为我们无事可做
it's for only having to eat
只是为了吃点东西
that's who you sell the cocoa
这就是你把可可卖给的人
to it's the pists who come in here to
这是来这里的曲目
pay for the products and then they send
支付产品费用，然后他们发送
it's who PIST well there are many who
谁是 PIST 有很多人
send the
发送给他们
PISTs the big ones here are the big ones the
PIST 这里的大的是大的
big ones
大的
buyers the Lebanese the
买家是黎巴嫩人
cooperatives but you you you don't know
合作社，但你不知道
you don't know where
你不知道该去哪里
your B goes no I give it to whoever comes
你的 B 不，我把这个给任何来的人
you never the
你从来没有
AG officially the iian government has a
AG 正式，iian 政府有一个
plan to
计划
fightforestationve all the
为森林而战 尽一切努力
farm coco
农场可可
sacrif0% of the forest reg other
牺牲 0% 的森林资源 其他
they are in
他们在
Burina you don't see I haven't seen them
Burina 你看不到我看不到他们
for 6 years like that I never
六年来我从来没有
saw my by you 15 years
15岁在你身边见我
yes it didn't get there no you arrived at
是的，它没有到达那里，不，你到达那里
15 years old1 there it is 21 years like that that
15 年1 那就是21 年了
's a lot of time sir his parents
先生，他的父母花了很多时间
a lot of smile you returned to
你又恢复了很多笑容
Burkina or never no I haven't
布基纳法索 或从不 不 我还没有
returned yet yes since when I came
从我来的时候就回复是
there I don't yet because it was that
我还没有，因为就是这个
year that I got the money
我拿到钱的那一年
this is the darkest secret of
这是最黑暗的秘密
theandestine plantations a has beening
茶安石种植园 a 已被
years for free and this year for the
多年免费，今年
first time as a re his B gave him a
第一次作为 re 他的 B 给了他一个
small coco parcel he could sell his own
他可以卖掉自己的小可可包裹
production and finally earn a bit of
生产并最终赚到一点钱
real money food for work for and of a
真正的金钱食物为工作和
few
很少
coces that'sity
科斯就是这样
don't here no he doesn't give me he does
不要在这里给它不他不给我他n
n't give me I worked juice he says
没有给我，我按照他说的去做
here for you I worked he
就是这样，我为我工作
gave me so you worked for free
这样你就可以免费工作
for 6 years that's it 'it's like
6年来就像
slave work that yes it's like already
奴隶劳动，是的，就像已经这样了
but as you wanted for you but this
但正如你想要的那样
gift doesn't succeed no I now
不，不，我现在
applaud by I pledged Chac demi CN
我打赌 Chac Demi CN 鼓掌
two layers watch on mobile devices or
在移动设备上进行两层观看或
the big screen all for free no
大屏幕全部免费 没有
subscription
订阅
required a bit fther on the road we meet
在我们相遇的路上需要走得更远一点
a kid who has just arrived from Burkina
一个刚从布基纳法索来的孩子
Faso his name ulisha for him this is
法索，他的名字是ulisha，这是
just the
只是
beginning it's someone who sent it
开始有人发送它
here is it that he can tell us how much
他能告诉我们多少钱吗
he is
他是
paid he is going to pay him he is going to
已付款 他会付款 他会付款
pay him he works he is going to give him
付钱后他会把它交给他
another portion for himself what he is
另一部分给自己什么
doing there everything is done like everything
一切都像一切一样
accounted for it is free but they are going to
会计它是免费的，但它会
give a portion of land afterwards is
之后给予一部分土地
your
你的
age stupid not his
笨蛋不是他的
COC his guy there he has more guy but
COC 他的人在那里，他还有更多的人，但是
it's the most important one which is there
这是最重要的一个
okay so you V ask it when AR
好的，所以你在 AR 的时候问一下
the jees enants this is what time the
孩子们，现在是什么时候了
cases arrive and then can I
案件发生了，然后我可以吗
have people to work for me or
有人为我工作或
is the situation all that
一切都很好
what NG
什么NG
by us we are here 24 out of 24 we
我们每天 24 小时都在这里
are here not even here
甚至不在这里
but doing 2 months at the GCI without returning
但在 GCI 待了 2 个月却没有回来
at home so everything happens everything that
在家里，所以一切都过去了
happens there is us when we remember even
当我们记得时经过那里就是我们
there is M
有 M
work work 15 15 14 years there are
工作 工作 15 15 14 年前
some who sit even there
谁谁甚至坐在那里
for having eaten same problem when he
当他吃同样的问题时
places only that
只放置这个
Travan like
特拉万饰演
it depends on him it depends on what you
这取决于他，取决于你做什么
do here we are we know we know each other
让他来我们这里，我们互相认识，我们互相认识
he who
他谁
VI worked there and then he who comes he
VI在那里工作，然后他来了
did and worked there no do
fa 和在那里工作 没有
you know each other by
你知道吗
that viux
太糟糕了
viux Liv it quickly quickly
viux Liv 速度很快
me BR have to do conf fa find it's a
我 BR 必须让conf fa 找到它
problem in any case you have to do me I
无论如何你必须做我的问题
'm ready I'm ready for that hole too
准备好了我也准备好进入这个洞了
happy work Mo ven do for youou me
Mo ven 为你或我做的快乐的工作
I'm happy you too are you happy
我很高兴你也很高兴
g yeah yeah pr at least 200 200
你是的 是的 公关至少 200 200
by 200 200000 by that he's going to go but
到 200 200000 就会消失，但是
there he can do how long to month
在那里能持续多久？
he can do 3 years 4 years there do 3
他可以做3年4年，他可以做3年
years already already I can do 3 years can
已经好几年了我可以做 3 年可以
do 2 years yes he can have 200,000 there
做 2 年是的，他可以在那里拥有 200000
but it's not spoiled all the M it's not the
但这并没有破坏M的一切
same thing yes CH doesn't have the same
同样的事情是的 CH 甚至没有
price m there M m I don't even pr
那里的价格 M m 我什至不知道
yeah if you finish drinking coffee h come
是的，如果你喝完咖啡，我就来
I called the children there will call you
我打电话给孩子们，那里也会打电话给你
the children there will call me
那里的孩子会马上打电话给我
right away the children there they will the children
接下来是孩子们 孩子们去那里
will call you
会打电话给你
ordf man
奥尔夫人
isournalestineantisedqu by
isournalestineantizedqu 由
the gore
血腥
the G
G
not that's where
不是那个地方
that allôour
就这样
are
是
comoup poura
科穆普普拉
will come will come today hi
会来 今天会来
we can see a few teenagers who do look
我们可以看到一些看起来确实的青少年
worried how many will end up in the
担心有多少人最终会进入
forest for years with no parents no
多年来没有父母的森林没有
school no
学校编号
hospital the danger they will have to
医院他们将面临的危险
face is no one's concern in particular
面子并不是任何人特别关心的
the most serious and
最严重和
invisible you work in cocoa
看不见你在可可工作
yes that's not good it's not dangerous
是的，这不好，并不危险
for you no but then you do
因为对你来说不，但你会跌倒
n't get sick but it's what product
没病但是是什么产品
product you put in that's
你投入的产品
what's red head there the
ded 这就是那里的红头
product there red head
产品有红头
that we don't know what
我们不知道什么
it is it's
是它是
Chinese
中国人
pasa
帕萨
of we end
我们结束
so that's why it's to kill
所以这就是为什么它是为了杀人
herb to kill herb first kill the
药草杀死药草先杀了他们
herbs and you plant the poop that's
草药然后你把粪便种在那里
it is like that we take we put on the back we
我们就是这样把它放在背面的
put medicine and then and all the
放药然后全部
young people that we see with it there in the
我们在那里看到的年轻人
bush it's the same product yes yes
布什 这是同一个产品 是 是
it's glyphosate yes yes you
这是草甘膦 是的，是的，你
know glyphosate good good we
知道草甘膦很好很好我们
knows the name but we don't know what
知道名字但不知道是什么
makes it only
才完成
C but no one told you what it was
C 但没有人告诉你什么
if it was dangerous or not we
是我们是否危险
never said that that it's dangerous that it
从未说过这很危险
can kill no one says that but when you
无法消除任何言语，但当你
see the little man with the
看到那个小家伙
protections like that you say to yourself
就像你对自己说的那样的保护
pasitutég before
之前的 pasitutég
pumping but as we don't have
泵，但我们不泵
protections we have to pump
保护自己，我们必须泵
like that
像这样
okay and that's how the cocoa
好吧，可可就是这样
moves forward, that's it. like that it's
他在前进，就是这样
when you kill and plant the cocoa
当你杀死并种植可可时
there it doesn't come quickly that CAO there it
那里，它不会很快到来，曹那里，那
grows here it develops before before
推到这里它之前就已经发展了
okay and how do you make
好的，你是怎么做到的
the trees all white like that
树都是这样白的
that's where we set fire or we set fire we
我们在那里放火或者我们放火
put the dry wood next to the
把干木头放在旁边
wood and then we set fire it's fire there
木头，然后我们点燃它，它在那里着火了
which burns ah it's like that agreement then
谁糊涂啊后来就这么约定了
you have more room for the poop
你有更多的空间来排便
that's okay
没关系
that's coco Forester
这是椰子森林人
so COC
不适用 COC
d you don't need to wait for the
你不需要等他们
Ivorians now right away we
科特迪瓦人现在就我们
here can all do that act together
在这里我们可以一起做这个动作
the industry and the French NGOs the
法国工业界和非政府组织
cocoa is coming we're cutting down the forest we're making
可可到来了，我们砍伐了森林
a monoculture full sun we put
我们投入了充足的阳光单一栽培
lots of toxic products on it
上面充满了有毒产品
chemicals left and right
化学品 右 左
then 20 years later the earth is
然后20年后地球她
worthless so we move again to go
一文不值所以我们搬回去
into the forest we do the same thing and
在森林里我们做同样的事情
we move again and we move again and we move again
我们再次搬家，我们再次搬家，我们再次搬家
that's why I say that cocoa
这就是为什么我说可可
is cannibal
是食人者
i
我
say mostl
说大多数
COC deforestation keeps spreading and
COC森林砍伐持续蔓延
impacts the climate globally less
对全球气候的影响较小
forests mean less
森林意味着更少
rain as the area is destroyed farmers
降雨导致该地区农民被毁
will have to leave it in an ever nearer
将不得不把它留在更近的地方
future
未来
within a week forest we winessed all the
一周之内我们参观了所有的森林
crimes the ind to eradicate slave Lab
根除奴隶实验室的罪行
and destruction of the environment
以及对环境的破坏
however each and every day doz of tons
然而每天都有许多声音
of this criminal
这个罪犯的
TR COC tr ​​rather a l prof where do these
TR COC tr 而教授这些在哪里
bag go whoys first they are unads at the
首先，他们是 unads
edge of theest both legal and
东部边缘既合法又
clandestine coco may end up
秘密可可最终可能会结束
here the bags are open and all the coco
这里的袋子是打开的，所有的可可
beans are mixed together in front of the
豆子在前面混合在一起
shop no symb on the bag no label
商店 袋子上没有标志 没有标签
impossible to track among thes thatate
无法追踪这些内容
outside the forest one has recently
最近在森林外面
undergone an
经历了
inquiryop Web is one of the most
quiryop 网站是最常用的网站之一
important in the region it shows a fair
在该地区很重要，它显示了公平
trade label which means no child labor
商业标签意味着不使用童工
no deforestation fair trade inspectors
没有砍伐森林公平贸易检查员
came a few months before a very som
几个月前来了一次非常索姆
prtice they didn't disose thes butop web
事实上，他们没有丢弃这些布托普网络
CER
核证减排量
the commercial relationship that exists with
存在的商业关系
these people key it's not they are not
这些关键人物不是他们不是
numerous minimal are minimal you are that
许多最小的都是最小的，你是c
那
when or that's when these trucks arrived
这些卡车是什么时候到达的
with dozens and dozens of
有几十个
like that there as we see there you are
就像我们看到的那样
certain that there is none who comes of
确定没有人来自
the zone of the zone where where there is
有工作的区域的面积
child labor deforestation in fact
事实上，儿童森林砍伐
child labor there is it
童工无处不在
almost everywhere let's be clear we have seen it
让我们明确一点，我们看到了一些
outside the zone in the zone everywhere
区外 区内 无处不在
finally it's it's a massive reiteration
终于，这是一个巨大的现实
because the problem also I don't know
因为这个问题我也不知道
what do you call
你管什么叫工作
child labor a gentleman today Sunday
今天周日孩子们是绅士
who is with his child in the field is it
这是谁带着他的孩子在田里
child labor not not
这是童工，不是吗？
child labor no of course you
童工 不，当然是
see of course but when it's a little
当然可以看到，但是当它很小的时候
Burkinabé who has been there for 5 years and who
布基纳法索 已在那里呆了 5 年的人
it's child labor what's the point it's
这是童工，有什么意义？
there among our memes our
我们的模因中有什么
m I haven't yet heard that some
我还没听说过
child employment there and how you
那里的儿童就业以及您如何
check every year we do
我们每年都会检查一次
inspections at the produceroc
生产者检查
the poop when it passes through you it goes where
当粪便经过你时它会去哪里
to edro how does it buy
àedro 怎么感觉疼痛
exp it's
经验是
their conna in Ivory Coast
他们在科特迪瓦的朋友
no for yes
不为是
[Music] it's
estop web SS all
网络SS全部停止了
cocoown am
可可翁上午
AG commoc
股份公司
to whom you sell your cocoa the one
你把可可卖给谁
you harvest even a lot of
你收获了很多象牙
big companies I don't know Desle
我不知道Desle的大公司
mars
行进
lidch there are others and it's
利奇还有其他的，那就是
mainly we stayed for just a few days
最重要的是我们在
and we see children on the side of the
几乎没有，我们看到孩子们处于边缘
road working with machetes
用砍刀修路
we see them deerb with
我们看到它们带着除草剂的鹿
dangerous herbicides and this they must see it your
危险，他们必须看到你的
agents child labor is it
代理童工是
is it is it This is something that we
这是我们的事情
try to avoid at all costs in the
让我们不惜一切代价尽量避免
cooperatives with which are certified which
获得认证的合作社
are part of our
是我们网络的一部分
sustainable development network, that is to say we
可持续发展也就是说我们
offer it for sustainable poop a
提供可持续的粪便
premium a premium which is of 50% in
premium 溢价 50%
comparison with the total price of the price
与总价的比较
of conventional cocoa 100 so 50% is
传统可可 100 所以 50% 是
delivered for la la la but physically to
为啦啦啦交付，但实际交付给
whom physically physically it is
物理上它是谁
it is the boss of the cooperative you are
他是你所在的合作社的老板
sure that he redistributes it the silver
确保他重新分配了钱
cooperative is a
合作社是一个
cooperative with
与人合作
trained people I our Marcher system
训练我的系统行走
and child labor it's
这就是童工
difficult to verify child labor
工作难以核实
this year itself we have to
孩子们，今年我们必须
build a primary school in one
在a建一所小学
of our sections ah good yourself as
我们的部分啊你好啊
c web
那是网络
enantù that the primary school
enantù 那小学
well the section has already been chosen but
好的，该部分已被选择，但是
I will leave it in the confidential
我会保密
next year if we see each other I will
明年如果我们见面我会
send you to
送你到
the school no it
学校没有她
will exist but why confidential
会存在但为什么要保密
because n ' nothing built ah
因为什么都没有建造啊
okay he didn't tell you the truth or
好吧，他没有告诉你真相，或者
I can't I can't tell you
我不能 我不能告诉你
that in our entire sector everything
在我们整个行业的一切
happens in like in the best of all
发生在最好的时候
worlds
世界
deforestation for us is a
砍伐森林对我们来说是
capital problem without forest we don't have
没有森林我们就没有资本问题
rain if we don't have rain we don't have
下雨 如果我们没有下雨 我们就没有下雨
cocoa if we don't have CaC we don't have F we
可可 如果我们没有 CaC 我们就没有 F 我们
don't have chocolate but it's magnificent
没有巧克力，但它很棒
say there at the same time you do
你正在做的同时说
business in one of the places that has been
在曾经的地方之一做生意
the most
最
deforested west deforestation in Côte
西部森林砍伐 海岸森林砍伐
d'Ivoire between 1960 and 2010 which is the
1960 年至 2010 年间的象牙产量
date on which more than 90% of the % the
超过 90% 的人的日期
date on which we are installed
我们安装的日期
in 2010 there was already 80% which had
2010年已经有80%的人拥有
been destroyed but that said it is necessary we
已被摧毁，但这就是说这是必要的，这是必要的
need to change things how do you
你必须改变你的方式
know that this company is the Copa web
知道这家公司 Copa 网站
how are you sure that the cocoa it
你怎么确定是可可呢
delivers to you in the sacords does not come
送你在和谐不来
from classified forests or basically it is a
分类森林或者大致是
lawless zone where the worst happens which
最糟糕的情况发生的无法无天的地区
we have put in place a fairly
我们已经建立了一套完整的系统
robust system which allows us to identify
鲁棒性使我们能够识别
the producer with whom we work
与我们合作的制片人
because this producer is geolocated
因为这个生产者是地理定位的
with a bar code and therefore we take
带有条形码，因此我们采取
all this information into a
所有这些信息都在数据库中
database and which therefore allows us to
数据，因此使我们能够
link the product with the producer
将产品与生产者联系起来
okay
好的
but excuse me I spent a
但对不起，我花了
week in this area I did not see a
我在这个地区已经一周没见过了
bag with a Code Bar and this web n not a
带有条形码的袋子，而这个网站不是一个
bag with a Code Bar this is
带有条形码的袋子是
information that does not correspond to
不对应的信息
the information that I have
我所掌握的信息
and how can we know today
我们怎么知道今天
that it is really inside or
无论它实际上在里面还是
not it is with the GPS positions but
不是 GPS 位置而是
which can help us to do it it's the
谁能帮助我们做到这一点是
state structures you know how they
国家结构你知道他们是如何
do it in Ghana in Ghana they have the same
在加纳做 在加纳 他们有同样的
problems as you and in Ghana there is a
您和加纳存在的问题
bar code with a GPS identification on
带有 GPS 识别功能的条码
each bag belonging to a producer
每个袋子都属于一个生产者
that can work you can do that
这可以工作你可以这样做
you good if they manage to do it it's
如果他们能做到那就太好了
because we can do it in Ivory Coast or
我们可以在科特迪瓦做到这一点
they haven't confirmed it to me it's cobard
或者我还没有确认它是cobard
but I can't finally maybe
但我也许最终不能
it's with the 'old system but in any
这是旧系统，但总的来说
case it is
情况是这样
certified really from the place which is
真正经过认证的地方
the worst it is clear that we are not perfect
最糟糕的是我们并不完美
I don't want to tell you that we are perfect
我不想告诉你我们是完美的
that we have found the ideal solution but
我们找到了理想的解决方案但是
we have to we must continue the
我们必须我们必须我们必须继续
fight
斗争
all these problems of deforestation
所有这些森林砍伐问题
of slavery child labor bring down
奴隶制童工回归
to one thing
什么是一件事
trability when we have no trability when
可追溯性 何时 不可追溯性
everything is in the dark in the vagueness
一切都在黑暗中模糊
we cannot know who owns the
我们不知道谁拥有它
problem all the time hide as soon as we
一旦我们发现问题一切都隐藏起来
know who sells to whom where when how
知道谁在何时何地卖给谁
then boom all of a sudden it's
然后突然繁荣起来
perfect we can know exactly whose
完美我们可以确切地知道谁
responsibility for this child in
对这个孩子的责任
particular for this case of slavery for
特别是对于这起奴隶制案件
this deforestation suddenly we can
这种森林砍伐突然让我们可以
solve the problem traceability is
解决问题的可追溯性是
the key to everything
一切的关键
primary for West
西部初选
AFC it's only 40 K South from the forest
AFC 距森林以南仅 40 K
but unlik the it hasn't been destroyed
但与它不同的是它没有被摧毁
by Coco farming
通过可可农业
yet howeverandestine farmers are
然而andestine农民是
settling in the reserve and start to
定居在保护区并开始
grow coco some of them are even reported
甚至有报道称种植可可
to carry weapons a local ngo is fighting
携带当地非政府组织正在战斗的武器
against this trffic our forest our
反对这种交通我们的森林我们的
future is doing the J of the
未来正在做J
first thing that led us to
首先让我们想到的是
do this we saw that if we did
这样做我们看到了如果我们不这样做
not get up in any case the classified forest
无论如何都没有解除分类森林
of cavali was going to suffer the same fate as
骑兵将遭受同样的命运
the classified forest of gin Deb so in fact
事实上杜松子酒 Deb 的分类森林
last year we did that to
去年我们这样做是为了
challenge in any case all these
无论如何，呼吁所有这些
great films there who came to take
那里有很棒的电影来拍摄
the cocoa crazy V classified we had
疯狂的 V 级可可，我们有它们
called them to tell them it's because
停下来告诉他们这是因为
you take cocoa that you
你拿了你的可可
encourage illegal immigrants that you
鼓励非法移民
encourage army bands to kill
鼓励军乐队杀人
people for cocoa so if you
人们喜欢可可所以如果你
continue to take this cocoa
继续喝可可
people will continue to die cocoa
人们将继续死于可可
is a lot of money wherever there
无论在哪里，这都是一大笔钱
is money there is a small mafia
为了钱有一个小黑手党
around even in this traffic but there
即使在这样的交通中，但那里
is there is complicity so here again
存在同谋，所以又存在
through our action there is a commander
我们的行动有一位指挥官
who is in charge of a commander of water and
谁对水域指挥官负责
forests who was
曾经的森林
dismissed there are people are that
撤销了还有人吗
that Alley
那条巷子
all my
我所有的
brother it's
兄弟那个
okay good evening
祝你晚上好
the man with the gun works for the water
拿枪的人为水而工作
and forest department the truck belongs
卡车所属的森林部门
to a wood exploitation company the NGO
一家木材开采公司 非政府组织
members don't look
会员不看
inside NG our forest our future
NG里面我们的森林我们的未来
of the office and once what part in the
办公室的哪个部分以及曾经的哪个部分
for en se
为了
[ Applause]
now we let you
现在我们离开你了
enter the market you check
进入您检查的市场
you see the attitude we put ourselves
你看到我们对自己的态度
in the Maqui without forgetting the dictaphone
在 Maqui 中，不要忘记录音机
with our our camera everything and
用我们的相机一切
全部
everything as if we had come to see
吸引我们仿佛前来观看
guys everything and everything exchange with
家伙交换一切和一切
to know where they are going and
知道他们要去哪里
you now Enie a test when
你现在你enie一个测试当
the SER there we send you a test and
那里的 SER 我们给你发了一份 testo 和
then you come and find yourself
然后你就会发现自己
FM
调频
comm to say that you are talking to someone
comm 表示您正在与某人交谈
talk no that's not that no pe
说不，不是这样，不，pe
d'Ar
氩气
when people take the poo in
当人们拉便便时
Bousse it's at his house come and
Bousse 这是他的地方来
store it's at night the poop comes in he
存储它是在晚上便便进入
comes back at night asked but why do
晚上回来问他们为什么
n't they do that during the day and then it's is
白天不要这样做，然后就可以了
the night no because it leaves the
晚上不行，因为它离开了森林
classified forest so they have they are afraid
分类所以他们有他们有他们害怕
that's why at night they have to bring in
这就是为什么他们晚上必须回家
the cocoa and ready to spill the beans
可可已经准备好泄露秘密了
give us information because they
给我们信息，因为他们
are here with the bouinabés they
和布伊纳贝们在一起，他们
know each other they are all together it's
知道他们都在一起
when you arrived with camera they
当你带着相机到达时他们
stood up but you followed the
站起来，但你跟着
scene they stood up why are you
他们起床的场景为什么你
doing this work because for you
做这项工作是因为为了你
it's important it's important it's
这很重要 这很重要 这很重要
very important people kind people
非常重要的人 善良的人
love the classified forest why go
绅士分类森林 为什么要去
and plant cocoa in the classified forest
在分类森林中种植可可
why do we say classified forest people do
为什么我们说分类森林人不做
n't know the value of the
不知道森林的价值
classified forest we don't want that that's why
分类难道我们不想要它吗
we do this work
为此我们做了这项工作
we our role it's
我们的作用是
you understand no we it's to help
你明白，不，我们要帮忙
the children who are you you have
你是谁，你有哪些孩子
problems the children who are in
对于以下儿童来说，问题是
difficulty the children who are
困难儿童
mistreated the children we work we
虐待我们工作的孩子
take to go and do work in the
去工作需要
cocoa field That's not good,
那里的可可田不太好
so that's what we're
所以这就是我们
defending. I work with the
捍卫我与该部的合作
Ministry of Family, Women and Children.
家庭、妇女和儿童部
I raise awareness at the
我在以下层面提高认识
village level with farmers against
村庄与农民一起反对
children who are victims of exploitation
遭受剥削的儿童
in the poop
在便便中
culture clean Netto
文化清洁内托
what do you go to school what class do you do
你去学校做什么 你做什么
C CP the children must not
C 级 CP 儿童不得
work in the field agree if you
在协议领域工作，如果
find it in the field there sayli that an
在现场找到 sayli 一个
uncle who says the state says the children
叔叔说国家说孩子
must not work in the field agree
不得在协议范围内工作
that the children must go to
孩子们应该去
school never again I see go to the
我再也见不到学校了
field if again I will
如果我再次愿意
take it there is someone there
那里有人
V
V
the school they go to the field with you
他们和你一起去田野
what is -what they do there that Tom
他们在那里做什么 汤姆
the children pick up to
孩子们捡起
group them but what you must
组但是你必须做的
understand that the children there are
了解孩子们
activities that should not be done so well
不应该做得那么好的活动
paid everyone will have the money
付清一切我就会有钱
enough to care for the children fa
足以教育孩子
not that the children have to work
并不是说孩子们必须工作
when I go for example I say
例如，当我去的时候我会这么说
the children must go to school it
孩子们必须去上学
poses the problem to you it's true I want
向你提出了问题，这是真的，我想要
my child to go to school but I
我的孩子正在上学，但我
don't have no way what do I do
我没有办法我该怎么办？
or the gentleman he has 3 4 5
或者这位先生有 3 4 5
children he has no way to
孩子们，他没有能力养活他们
put them in school what do
送去学校先生做了什么
you do you do
你做
埃斯
years this year I'm going go
今年我要去
to university it's misery for
上大学是痛苦的
worse its problems I arrive laier
这是一个问题，我要回家了
the deè or very slice there are
deè 或非常切片有
problems price of cocoa cocoa money
可可价格问题
there it's in 2 months after that
可可 两个月后
it's
这是
over he doesn't have the money for money
完了，他没钱了
money it's too little
钱太少了
eh last year 700 year 750 it's
呃，去年 700 年 750 是
not very tired not
不太累
the money see no you see until m pe
钱看不到你看到直到我
not walk
不走路
yet broken not the money it's
你不会再把钱弄坏了，这是
not g there who id a little bit a little bit you go to
不存在谁 id 一点点你去
school he went to school but he
学校 他去上学但是他
there if he had means if your dad doesn't
如果他有办法 如果你爸爸没有
have means do you prefer
你更喜欢什么手段
to go to school or
去学校或者
work
去工作
oc a question we wanted to ask the
oc 我们想问的一个问题
chocolate
巧克力
industrials we're heading
我们前进的工业
totz homes
托茨之家
coco Corporation Barry invites the main
coco Corporation巴里邀手
actors of the chocolate industry they
他们是巧克力行业的参与者
keepting the same goal to put an end to
保持同一个目标以结束
poverty and then they publish nice
贫穷，然后他们出版了好书
pictures on the
上的图片
internet no one wants farmers to just
互联网没有人希望农民只是
live Of Nothing no one wants people to
没有人希望人们过着虚无的生活
be hungry children to be malnutrition or
饥饿 儿童营养不良或
not educated i mean we clear on that
没有受过教育，我的意思是我们清楚这一点
barryba notified us by email we are not
barryba 通过电子邮件通知我们，我们不是
welcome at the choc vision event but we
欢迎来到巧克力视觉活动，但我们
still hope to meet some people we can to
仍然希望能够认识一些我们可以认识的人
after all they did commit to public
毕竟他们确实向公众承诺
transparency but the hotel security had
透明度高，但酒店保安有
strict orders about
严格命令
us no
我们不
C no finger we are out of the hotel let
C 没有手指 我们离开酒店让
us work
我们工作
please
请
no
不
if
如果
ourn hello Mr Minister we can
你好，部长先生，我们可以
ask you a question for a former GH
问你一个问题来组建 GH
min almost to
分钟几乎到
us we are an anno the organ
我们是 anno 器官
officer
官
our that we had already spoken to listen
我们已经说过要听的
let's agree you're going to send me your
我们同意你要把你的发给我
questions and I'm i'm going to reply to
问题，我将回复
you as soon
你很快
as the wesessed with is why they still
正如我们所知道的，这就是为什么他们仍然
don't hold their promise in 200 20 years
200年20年内不兑现承诺
ago all chocolate industrials committed
以前所有巧克力工业都承诺
to put end child Lab they all signed a
为了结束儿童实验室，他们都签署了一份
sol document spearheaded by the world
世界主导的sol文件
coco Foundation we meet one of them on
可可基金会我们见到了其中一位
the parking
停车场
l simple solutions uh are very hard to
简单的解决方案呃很难
find for something as complicated as the
寻找像这样复杂的东西
child labor phenomenon but we all agree
童工现象但我们都同意
that the solution of paying more to the
解决方案是向
growers has not been
种植者尚未
implement we areings to upoes to how
实施我们正在努力的uppoe如何
farmers can improve their income 18
农民可以提高收入 18
years of pass and still looking what you
多年过去了，你还在寻找什么
to do in the future and nothing is done
未来要做的事却什么也没做
nowadays efficiently to stop
今天有效地停止
poverty I would I wouldn't say that
贫穷 我会 我不会这么说
nothing is being done now as I mentioned
正如我提到的，现在什么也没做
before we have companies that are
在我们拥有这样的公司之前
committed to premiums to farmers
致力于向农民支付保费
to help them paying increase their income
帮助他们增加收入
levels the coco business all together
将可可业务整合在一起
every year is billion worth ok and that
每年价值十亿美元还可以
growers get 6% out of it you think it's
种植者从中获得 6%，你认为是这样
enough what what I can say is that this
我能说的就够了
is not unusual for commodities if you
对于商品来说这并不罕见，如果你
think of cotton i mean how much does a
想到棉花我的意思是多少钱
cotton Farmer get compared to how much
棉农得到的比较是多少
we pay for a pair of jeans or another
我们支付一条牛仔裤或其他的费用
article of clothing that is made from
由以下材料制成的衣物
cotton so it's it's this is not
棉花所以是它是这不是
something that's specific to coco ok so
coco 特有的东西，好吧
we'll meet in 20 years and see what's
20年后我们会见面，看看会发生什么
going on every 20 years come hopefully
每 20 年发生一次 希望
sooner than that hopefully sooner than
希望早于
that
what about the lawyers what are they
律师呢，他们是什么？
doing about it chocolate is essentially
做这件事巧克力本质上是
a European
一个欧洲人
ISS so we went to the EU Parliament in
国际空间站所以我们去了欧盟议会
Brussels surprisingly illegal practices
布鲁塞尔令人惊讶的非法行为
in the coco Supply Chain are not saned
可可供应链中的产品不卫生
by the European
由欧洲人
legislationidi a Member of
立法迪顶级会员
Parliament from Finland often meets
芬兰议会经常开会
chocolate manufaurers
巧克力制造商
areing AC on do with COC so that COC
AC 与 COC 一起工作，以便 COC
would not anym cause deforestation and
不会造成森林砍伐并且
child labor and what is really very
童工和什么是真正非常
remarkable is that more and more
值得注意的是越来越多
companies in former times you would have
以前你会拥有的公司
said that companies are masochistic that
说公司是受虐狂
they are asking for law yes but but they
他们正在寻求法律，是的，但是他们
want what they call a level playing
想要他们所谓的水平游戏
field because they don't um want to be
领域，因为他们不想成为
irresponsible and then they see that the
不负责任，然后他们发现
irresponsible companies are reaping the
不负责任的企业正在自食其果
profits you know for a cheap price so
你知道以便宜的价格获得利润，所以
that's the question because to be
这就是问题所在，因为要
responsible may cost a little more are
负责的可能会花费多一点
you facing a lobby that well if I
你面对的是一个大厅那么好如果我
may I would just like to show you an
我只想给你看一个
example that of course there is this
例子当然有这个
kind of fancy side ind but there is not
有点花哨的一面，但没有
a word
一句话
about HUG human rights issues and
关于HUG人权问题和
environmental issues that are hidden in
隐藏的环境问题
the supply chain of chocolate so I was
巧克力的供应链所以我
invited to this reception but I just
受邀参加这个招待会，但我只是
couldn't go because this is not honest
不能去，因为这不诚实
simple question is why don't they pay
简单的问题是他们为什么不付钱
more I don't have a good answer to that
更多 我对此没有一个好的答案
but everyone who works on on the
但每个从事该工作的人
problems of coco say that yes you can
可可的问题说，是的，你可以
you can
你可以
maybe you can come into terms with uh
也许你可以接受呃
deforestation and child labor but there
森林砍伐和童工问题，但
is the deep deep question of living
是生活的深刻问题
wagese I i think it's a terrible thing
我认为这是一件可怕的事情
that we can taste these fancy chocolates
我们可以品尝这些精美的巧克力
here in russels but then a simple coco
在罗素这里，但然后是一个简单的可可
worker in in in C probably did not even
C 中的工人可能甚至没有
taste chocolate because it's too
尝尝巧克力，因为它太
expensive it's a luxury product out of
价格昂贵，这是一种奢侈品
their reach so living W is a real issue
他们的影响范围如此之大，生活是一个真正的问题
under the table
在桌子底下
ouious
奇怪的
la a
该有
a B a low ok it's when we see
A B 低 好吧，我们就看到了
that the children are going to the room we're going to see
孩子们要去我们将看到的房间
the parents ah the children we we are told we are
父母啊孩子们我们被告知
told to put the children in school
告诉你送孩子们去学校
from 6 to 9
从 6 到 9
years old how do we pay you well
几年我们如何付给你好钱
I am paid by by
我的工资由
me by the parents yes by the parents
我是父母的 是的 父母的
who contribute yes yes and that is not
谁做出了贡献 是 是的 不是
the state which you no it's not
你不知道它不是的状态
the state because the state doesn't have enough
国家因为国家没有足够的
money to pay teachers in
支付教师工资的钱
poor areas like that
那样的贫困地区
VO
视氧浓度
GOC one small step towards hope
GOC 迈向希望的一小步